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		<title>By: GB</title>
		<link>http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/new-government-set-to-be-announced-today.html/comment-page-1#comment-6100</link>
		<dc:creator>GB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 01:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott:
2&gt;	My account of the tale of the Swiss guard garnering spears I know as an apocryphal tale only.  I assigned the invaders to be Romans only for their fame for impregnable spear-bristling close-formations.  I could not call them Italian because no Italians have ever invaded Switzerland.  An army attacking Swiss Guards in the Italian peninsula could only be other Swiss Guards or other nations&#039; troops or mercenaries.  Any army attacking from the Italian peninsula into Switzerland could only be chronologically challenged Romans, perhaps ones fallen from a loose page of an Asterix history.
	Historically, Italy, Switzerland and  Iceland, all three, rank among the nations of the world with the most vacant historical records for deeds of war and conquest and valorous slaughter.  Italy&#039;s record stands at one inglorious overture into an unsuspecting and unexpecting Abyssinia, and one less than energetic attempt against impoverished Ethiopia, which, if I recall correctly, was never finished.  Iceland has bested no one but the Royal Navy, and that with its fishing fleet and fishing-grounds parking-patrol officers, for having nothing more warlike.  Switzerland&#039;s most recent record of warrish deeds are centuries old, ending with the closing of the history books on Swiss Guards who went as guest-workers into the Italian Peninsula, where they carried arms for any prince or potentate who could afford their fees, from the era of Rome&#039;s Caesars up through when the last one&#039;s treasury was bare.  They would take either and as often as not both sides, and put on shows of arranged hostilities to please, and bankrupt, their sponsors.  But that was before there was an Italy.     
2&gt;           I think your suggestion of a ship situation is a better analogy, though I picture it a passenger ship, with the captain and officers determined to go down with their ship.  So determined they take their stances and wait, having forgotten to warn the sleeping passengers the ship is sinking...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott:<br />
2&gt;	My account of the tale of the Swiss guard garnering spears I know as an apocryphal tale only.  I assigned the invaders to be Romans only for their fame for impregnable spear-bristling close-formations.  I could not call them Italian because no Italians have ever invaded Switzerland.  An army attacking Swiss Guards in the Italian peninsula could only be other Swiss Guards or other nations&#8217; troops or mercenaries.  Any army attacking from the Italian peninsula into Switzerland could only be chronologically challenged Romans, perhaps ones fallen from a loose page of an Asterix history.<br />
	Historically, Italy, Switzerland and  Iceland, all three, rank among the nations of the world with the most vacant historical records for deeds of war and conquest and valorous slaughter.  Italy&#8217;s record stands at one inglorious overture into an unsuspecting and unexpecting Abyssinia, and one less than energetic attempt against impoverished Ethiopia, which, if I recall correctly, was never finished.  Iceland has bested no one but the Royal Navy, and that with its fishing fleet and fishing-grounds parking-patrol officers, for having nothing more warlike.  Switzerland&#8217;s most recent record of warrish deeds are centuries old, ending with the closing of the history books on Swiss Guards who went as guest-workers into the Italian Peninsula, where they carried arms for any prince or potentate who could afford their fees, from the era of Rome&#8217;s Caesars up through when the last one&#8217;s treasury was bare.  They would take either and as often as not both sides, and put on shows of arranged hostilities to please, and bankrupt, their sponsors.  But that was before there was an Italy.<br />
2&gt;           I think your suggestion of a ship situation is a better analogy, though I picture it a passenger ship, with the captain and officers determined to go down with their ship.  So determined they take their stances and wait, having forgotten to warn the sleeping passengers the ship is sinking&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 17:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve - don´t trust Wikipedia. The Swiss won at Sempach, they lost at Bicocca. The legend of Winkelried and his actions in the latter got later transposed into the earlier battle that they &quot;really&quot; liked to sing about, not the one where they got mauled. See Delbruck´s &quot;History of the Art of War Within the Framework of Political History, Vol III, aka &quot;History of the Art of War Vol II - Medieval Warfare&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; don´t trust Wikipedia. The Swiss won at Sempach, they lost at Bicocca. The legend of Winkelried and his actions in the latter got later transposed into the earlier battle that they &#8220;really&#8221; liked to sing about, not the one where they got mauled. See Delbruck´s &#8220;History of the Art of War Within the Framework of Political History, Vol III, aka &#8220;History of the Art of War Vol II &#8211; Medieval Warfare&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 12:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;2) Although your account has basis in fact, to be a little more precise it was a Swiss soldier fighting Italians at the battle of Bicocca in 1522 that was the basis (among others at other medieval battles who did the same thing) for this legend. Saying Romans prickly with spears conjures up an image of a) ancient Rome and b) a phalanx, which is more a Greek than a Roman tactic.

Looks more like the 1386 Battle of Sempach, although I see what you mean by &quot;basis&quot;.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sempach</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;2) Although your account has basis in fact, to be a little more precise it was a Swiss soldier fighting Italians at the battle of Bicocca in 1522 that was the basis (among others at other medieval battles who did the same thing) for this legend. Saying Romans prickly with spears conjures up an image of a) ancient Rome and b) a phalanx, which is more a Greek than a Roman tactic.</p>
<p>Looks more like the 1386 Battle of Sempach, although I see what you mean by &#8220;basis&#8221;.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sempach"  rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sempach</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joonas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 07:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Wikipedia already claims that &quot;Opinion polls indicate that the Left-Green Movement will win enough votes in the coming election to form their own government.&quot; (No source provided, though.) But assuming this will happen in the coming elections, do you think the Left Greens will take Iceland out of Nato? After all, the party&#039;s website says that it &quot;opposes participation in military organizations such as NATO and WEU&quot;.</description>
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<p>Wikipedia already claims that &#8220;Opinion polls indicate that the Left-Green Movement will win enough votes in the coming election to form their own government.&#8221; (No source provided, though.) But assuming this will happen in the coming elections, do you think the Left Greens will take Iceland out of Nato? After all, the party&#8217;s website says that it &#8220;opposes participation in military organizations such as NATO and WEU&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction: Arnold (von) Winkelried, not Arthur.

And incidentally, the Swiss were slaughtered in that battle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction: Arnold (von) Winkelried, not Arthur.</p>
<p>And incidentally, the Swiss were slaughtered in that battle.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GB - 

1) Time will tell how bad off Iceland is. However, my suspicion is that when company annual financial reports for yearend 2008 are public, facts will be much clearer and perhaps direr. My suspicion is that insolvencies will run rampant and &quot;when all markets eventually clear&quot; that may result in Iceland being cleared of many of its most promising youth, which may have little means or inclination to pay off crushing sovereign debt. I hope you are right and I am wrong.

2) Although your account has basis in fact, to be a little more precise it was a Swiss soldier fighting Italians at the battle of Bicocca in 1522 that was the basis (among others at other medieval battles who did the same thing) for this legend. Saying Romans prickly with spears conjures up an image of a) ancient Rome and b) a phalanx, which is more a Greek than a Roman tactic.

3) Are our only choices for how to describe Oddson a) Arthur Winkelried (the Swiss martyred knight) or Christ? I don´t think that does justice to his lack of effectiveness and/or active participation in encouraging a system (unregulated kleptocracy) that led to such tremendous damage that will span across generations. A better analogy would be to the captain of a military vessel who is charged with its safe handling, and while they are asleep in the cabin, the crew runs it aground. Nevertheless, he/she (in nations with martial virtues) is still held accountable for the events that took place under their command. And they should be sacked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GB &#8211; </p>
<p>1) Time will tell how bad off Iceland is. However, my suspicion is that when company annual financial reports for yearend 2008 are public, facts will be much clearer and perhaps direr. My suspicion is that insolvencies will run rampant and &#8220;when all markets eventually clear&#8221; that may result in Iceland being cleared of many of its most promising youth, which may have little means or inclination to pay off crushing sovereign debt. I hope you are right and I am wrong.</p>
<p>2) Although your account has basis in fact, to be a little more precise it was a Swiss soldier fighting Italians at the battle of Bicocca in 1522 that was the basis (among others at other medieval battles who did the same thing) for this legend. Saying Romans prickly with spears conjures up an image of a) ancient Rome and b) a phalanx, which is more a Greek than a Roman tactic.</p>
<p>3) Are our only choices for how to describe Oddson a) Arthur Winkelried (the Swiss martyred knight) or Christ? I don´t think that does justice to his lack of effectiveness and/or active participation in encouraging a system (unregulated kleptocracy) that led to such tremendous damage that will span across generations. A better analogy would be to the captain of a military vessel who is charged with its safe handling, and while they are asleep in the cabin, the crew runs it aground. Nevertheless, he/she (in nations with martial virtues) is still held accountable for the events that took place under their command. And they should be sacked.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 02:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;oh my! What is it like - do tell! Does the printed logo look all right??&lt;/i&gt;
It&#039;s the organic cotton one with the autumn logo and, yes, it looks good and the logo is printed perfectly. A nice T-shirt :-) A pity London isn&#039;t 20C warmer this weekend...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>oh my! What is it like &#8211; do tell! Does the printed logo look all right??</i><br />
It&#8217;s the organic cotton one with the autumn logo and, yes, it looks good and the logo is printed perfectly. A nice T-shirt <img src='http://icelandweatherreport.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  A pity London isn&#8217;t 20C warmer this weekend&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GB</title>
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		<dc:creator>GB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geir Haarde is correct that Iceland&#039;s economy is far from being as badly off as many believe it.   Indeed, Iceland could be in far worse condition:  It could be a member of the EU and unable to adjust its own currency.  Too many fail to realize the strengths there can be in a &quot;weak&quot; currency.  Then, also, there are many positives already apparent, and more are and will be appearing.  Also, thre are elements not immediately recognizable to be beneficial that will ultimately show to be be.  Gordon Brown&#039;s designating Iceland, or its banks, terrorist, is an example.  His bit of over-haste will likely pay some of Iceland&#039;s bills in time.

As for D&#039;Oddsson, he, too, is likely  not so much the villain as he is made at present.  There is no doubt he is being given the brunt and made the crisis scape-goat.  It appears that he was taken as much in surprise by the breakdown as any, and he that he made a bad call or two.   And there is little doubt that he has meant well for Iceland in all he has done.   That said, there is that bit of cutsie foolishness, where he said to a worried and desperate government searching for answers and reasons that he knew the reasons, but he was not telling.  With that he put himself squarely in line for where he is.  From then he was crow-bait, and would be even had he done everything else right.

There is a Swiss tale of an army of Swiss guard facing a wall of attacking Roman soldiers impregnable for being prickly with spears, until a brave Swiss charged the spears, gathering as many as he could into himself, thereby making an opening through which the others of the Swiss could get in, behind the spear defense, to then rout the Romans.  Perhaps D&#039;Oddsson can think of himself as such a one, taking the slings and arrows of the opposition?

 But there is also the story of Jesus, the truth of whom was not understood, wherefore he suffered ignoble sacrifice.  Today&#039;s question is which of these D&#039;Oddsson is more likely to feel himself to be...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geir Haarde is correct that Iceland&#8217;s economy is far from being as badly off as many believe it.   Indeed, Iceland could be in far worse condition:  It could be a member of the EU and unable to adjust its own currency.  Too many fail to realize the strengths there can be in a &#8220;weak&#8221; currency.  Then, also, there are many positives already apparent, and more are and will be appearing.  Also, thre are elements not immediately recognizable to be beneficial that will ultimately show to be be.  Gordon Brown&#8217;s designating Iceland, or its banks, terrorist, is an example.  His bit of over-haste will likely pay some of Iceland&#8217;s bills in time.</p>
<p>As for D&#8217;Oddsson, he, too, is likely  not so much the villain as he is made at present.  There is no doubt he is being given the brunt and made the crisis scape-goat.  It appears that he was taken as much in surprise by the breakdown as any, and he that he made a bad call or two.   And there is little doubt that he has meant well for Iceland in all he has done.   That said, there is that bit of cutsie foolishness, where he said to a worried and desperate government searching for answers and reasons that he knew the reasons, but he was not telling.  With that he put himself squarely in line for where he is.  From then he was crow-bait, and would be even had he done everything else right.</p>
<p>There is a Swiss tale of an army of Swiss guard facing a wall of attacking Roman soldiers impregnable for being prickly with spears, until a brave Swiss charged the spears, gathering as many as he could into himself, thereby making an opening through which the others of the Swiss could get in, behind the spear defense, to then rout the Romans.  Perhaps D&#8217;Oddsson can think of himself as such a one, taking the slings and arrows of the opposition?</p>
<p> But there is also the story of Jesus, the truth of whom was not understood, wherefore he suffered ignoble sacrifice.  Today&#8217;s question is which of these D&#8217;Oddsson is more likely to feel himself to be&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: alda</title>
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		<dc:creator>alda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kata - Ég útskýri á &#039;About&#039; síðunni hvernig á því stendur að kommentin eru ekki undir gömlu færslunum ... vegna þess að síðan færðist frá Blogspot yfir í Wordpress. Gamla síðan er núna  á www.icelandweatherreport.blogspot.com - þú getur séð gömlu kommentin þar.

Andrew - I think we&#039;ll just all breathe a collective sigh of relief. At least most of us will.

James - oh my! What is it like - do tell! Does the printed logo look all right??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kata &#8211; Ég útskýri á &#8216;About&#8217; síðunni hvernig á því stendur að kommentin eru ekki undir gömlu færslunum &#8230; vegna þess að síðan færðist frá Blogspot yfir í WordPress. Gamla síðan er núna  á <a href="http://www.icelandweatherreport.blogspot.com"  rel="nofollow">http://www.icelandweatherreport.blogspot.com</a> &#8211; þú getur séð gömlu kommentin þar.</p>
<p>Andrew &#8211; I think we&#8217;ll just all breathe a collective sigh of relief. At least most of us will.</p>
<p>James &#8211; oh my! What is it like &#8211; do tell! Does the printed logo look all right??</p>
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		<title>By: Kata</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 23:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hvar eru öll kommentin af gömlu færslunum?? Er einhver linkur sem hægt er að fara inn á til að sjá þau öll aftur?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hvar eru öll kommentin af gömlu færslunum?? Er einhver linkur sem hægt er að fara inn á til að sjá þau öll aftur?</p>
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