Comments on: Power to the people!! http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html Thu, 17 May 2012 15:30:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: colin buchanan http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html/comment-page-1#comment-5839 colin buchanan Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:30:33 +0000 http://icelandweatherreport.com/?p=1492#comment-5839 I'm just thinking through the political ramifications of all this. There is the wider issue of whether Iceland is part of the collapsing atlanticist, empire of fraud, block or part of Europe which still has the basis of a real economy, infrastructure etc. sufficient to survive the Tsunami. This issue hasn't completely clarified yet since europe hasn't itself broken free of anglo-saxon tutelage, but it will do( you can help it to do so) Of course, Iceland is in the process of reaffirming its sovereignty in a real sense but there is a contradiction there: it can only do so within a wider regional context, in this case europe. Exactly the same principle applies to the South American nations as they throw off US hegemony. What I'm feeling towards is this slogan: Iceland out of NATO, Iceland into europe(the Euro)! This would probably just cause division at the moment but make no mistake: at some point this geopolitical dilemma will have to resolved and that little slogan will shake the world. I’m just thinking through the political ramifications of all this. There is the wider issue of whether Iceland is part of the collapsing atlanticist, empire of fraud, block or part of Europe which still has the basis of a real economy, infrastructure etc. sufficient to survive the Tsunami. This issue hasn’t completely clarified yet since europe hasn’t itself broken free of anglo-saxon tutelage, but it will do( you can help it to do so) Of course, Iceland is in the process of reaffirming its sovereignty in a real sense but there is a contradiction there: it can only do so within a wider regional context, in this case europe. Exactly the same principle applies to the South American nations as they throw off US hegemony.

What I’m feeling towards is this slogan:

Iceland out of NATO, Iceland into europe(the Euro)!

This would probably just cause division at the moment but make no mistake: at some point this geopolitical dilemma will have to resolved and that little slogan will shake the world.

]]> By: colin buchanan http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html/comment-page-1#comment-5837 colin buchanan Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:10:33 +0000 http://icelandweatherreport.com/?p=1492#comment-5837 Viva la revolucion bolivarista en Islandia! We are seeing the beginning of the pattern that unfolded in Bolivia and elsewhere in South America: sections of the corrupt elited crumbling away before popular pressure. Alda is right- Iceland is "at the very center of change" but not just in Iceland. Hopefully we can bring this model of protest to the UK where 60 million people are being left to the tender mercies of a vicious financier elite who have everyone in their pockets, most of all the government. I have posted your report: http://inthesenewtimes.com/2009/01/26/power-to-the-people/ Viva la revolucion bolivarista en Islandia! We are seeing the beginning of the pattern that unfolded in Bolivia and elsewhere in South America: sections of the corrupt elited crumbling away before popular pressure. Alda is right- Iceland is “at the very center of change” but not just in Iceland. Hopefully we can bring this model of protest to the UK where 60 million people are being left to the tender mercies of a vicious financier elite who have everyone in their pockets, most of all the government.

I have posted your report:

http://inthesenewtimes.com/2009/01/26/power-to-the-people/

]]> By: Dave Hambidge http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html/comment-page-1#comment-5836 Dave Hambidge Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:09:43 +0000 http://icelandweatherreport.com/?p=1492#comment-5836 Power to the people of Niceland!! Power to the people of Niceland!!

]]> By: alda http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html/comment-page-1#comment-5835 alda Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:05:30 +0000 http://icelandweatherreport.com/?p=1492#comment-5835 LDE - I totally agree with you, these are two separate matters. However, in my view at that particular moment they were intertwined and inseparable. The PM had just learned that his illness was malignant. Perhaps that affected his decision to call elections - who knows. But my personal view is that it was natural for him to inform the nation right away about being ill, as it obviously is very relevant at this time. And it is also natural at a human level to feel empathy/sympathy for him and his family. That doesn't mean that his work performance is above criticism - and in that sense his illness is irrelevant. However, I would have thought it more strange had he kept it to himself. LDE – I totally agree with you, these are two separate matters. However, in my view at that particular moment they were intertwined and inseparable. The PM had just learned that his illness was malignant. Perhaps that affected his decision to call elections – who knows. But my personal view is that it was natural for him to inform the nation right away about being ill, as it obviously is very relevant at this time. And it is also natural at a human level to feel empathy/sympathy for him and his family. That doesn’t mean that his work performance is above criticism – and in that sense his illness is irrelevant. However, I would have thought it more strange had he kept it to himself.

]]> By: Ljósmynd DE http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html/comment-page-1#comment-5834 Ljósmynd DE Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:26:35 +0000 http://icelandweatherreport.com/?p=1492#comment-5834 I have been pondering somehow about your comment to one of the last posts that foreigners tend to behave more cynical and hate the sinner instead of the sin. It seems to me reasonable to consider it as two separate matters: feeling sympathetic with the PM on a human level, which everybody definitely should do and certainly does, and feeling uneasy about the fact that just at a crucial point, when public action and a public statement in behalf of the government seemed inevitable, private matters were brought forward, leaving everybody, questioning this stunning coincidence, exposed to being considered as heartless or cynical. I'm not familiar with the intricacies of Icelandic politics, I'm just seeing the patterns - from an outsider's point of view. Confounding those two things seems to be distracting from the real problems and not to be in the interest of those, who want to have changes, if only because mixing private and public matters is one of those problems. But the ongoing high participation in the demonstrations seems to indicate that people are able to focus on the real problems and being empathic at the same time. I have been pondering somehow about your comment to one of the last posts that foreigners tend to behave more cynical and hate the sinner instead of the sin.

It seems to me reasonable to consider it as two separate matters: feeling sympathetic with the PM on a human level, which everybody definitely should do and certainly does, and feeling uneasy about the fact that just at a crucial point, when public action and a public statement in behalf of the government seemed inevitable, private matters were brought forward, leaving everybody, questioning this stunning coincidence, exposed to being considered as heartless or cynical. I’m not familiar with the intricacies of Icelandic politics, I’m just seeing the patterns – from an outsider’s point of view. Confounding those two things seems to be distracting from the real problems and not to be in the interest of those, who want to have changes, if only because mixing private and public matters is one of those problems.

But the ongoing high participation in the demonstrations seems to indicate that people are able to focus on the real problems and being empathic at the same time.

]]> By: maja http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html/comment-page-1#comment-5824 maja Sun, 25 Jan 2009 23:32:43 +0000 http://icelandweatherreport.com/?p=1492#comment-5824 Awesome! Awesome!

]]> By: Sarf http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html/comment-page-1#comment-5817 Sarf Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:43:18 +0000 http://icelandweatherreport.com/?p=1492#comment-5817 I am a foreigner living here, and what little I do know of the situation i am glad they finally bowed to public pressure. The protests where starting to get out of control. The government should exist at the sufferance of the people. not the other way around. The Protests/ riots where starting to get out of hand, while I agree with the people, the government can always escalate higher. And i was beginning to worry about where this was heading. But it seems like cooler heads are starting to prevail. Just don't elect the same baboons again, no matter what they say on stage and TV. I am a foreigner living here, and what little I do know of the situation i am glad they finally bowed to public pressure. The protests where starting to get out of control.

The government should exist at the sufferance of the people. not the other way around. The Protests/ riots where starting to get out of hand, while I agree with the people, the government can always escalate higher. And i was beginning to worry about where this was heading.

But it seems like cooler heads are starting to prevail. Just don’t elect the same baboons again, no matter what they say on stage and TV.

]]> By: giustino http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html/comment-page-1#comment-5813 giustino Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:16:37 +0000 http://icelandweatherreport.com/?p=1492#comment-5813 Great blog! Good to see there are others chronicling the painful rebirth of northern Europe. Takk fyrir. Great blog! Good to see there are others chronicling the painful rebirth of northern Europe. Takk fyrir.

]]> By: Vaidas http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html/comment-page-1#comment-5812 Vaidas Sun, 25 Jan 2009 17:08:18 +0000 http://icelandweatherreport.com/?p=1492#comment-5812 I completely agree with Alda about sensation of “Vanhæf ríkisstjórn” chant. From the beginning of pans and pots protests I felt like taking part in pagan exorcism ceremony, evicting demons of greediness and selfishness. I like time spent in this light trance and am ready to continue on banging pot and chanting as long as demons are gone! I completely agree with Alda about sensation of “Vanhæf ríkisstjórn” chant. From the beginning of pans and pots protests I felt like taking part in pagan exorcism ceremony, evicting demons of greediness and selfishness. I like time spent in this light trance and am ready to continue on banging pot and chanting as long as demons are gone!

]]> By: Ljósmynd DE http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/01/power-to-the-people.html/comment-page-1#comment-5811 Ljósmynd DE Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:02:16 +0000 http://icelandweatherreport.com/?p=1492#comment-5811 At least it`s just bad conscience and not another serious illness. You wouldn't know what to say, if the government was about to be turning into a sickbed. The minister looks very young, certainly planning on his future career. He surely had in mind that the first one to leave the sinking - government - ship is going to be forgiven most easily. Isn't it now time for extraparliamentary experts to step in? Is Oddson planning to run for election as new PM?...just kidding. Are you planning to create "Vanhæf ríkisstjórn!"-T-shirts? At least it`s just bad conscience and not another serious illness. You wouldn’t know what to say, if the government was about to be turning into a sickbed.

The minister looks very young, certainly planning on his future career. He surely had in mind that the first one to leave the sinking – government – ship is going to be forgiven most easily.

Isn’t it now time for extraparliamentary experts to step in?

Is Oddson planning to run for election as new PM?…just kidding.

Are you planning to create “Vanhæf ríkisstjórn!”-T-shirts?

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