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	<title>Comments on: Iceland&#8217;s Copenhagen goals: feasible or phoney?</title>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/12/icelands-copenhagen-goals-feasible-or-phoney.html/comment-page-1#comment-11500</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRADSTREET - I suspect it&#039;ll be impossible for a varied group to conclude on global warming for at least another 20 years! Most people view the current worthy policies (reducing pollution, etc) as more relevant to their lives than actual evidence of man-made global warming. It has become more important to try and change nature through policy targets than to understand nature. So, in this worthy political climate, experimental science is taking a very distant second place to applied science. I wonder if your think tank would focus on tedious evidence or more interesting policies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRADSTREET &#8211; I suspect it&#8217;ll be impossible for a varied group to conclude on global warming for at least another 20 years! Most people view the current worthy policies (reducing pollution, etc) as more relevant to their lives than actual evidence of man-made global warming. It has become more important to try and change nature through policy targets than to understand nature. So, in this worthy political climate, experimental science is taking a very distant second place to applied science. I wonder if your think tank would focus on tedious evidence or more interesting policies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: maría</title>
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		<dc:creator>maría</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t wait for the solstice. And I&#039;m only in Spain. I need longer days. Although I must admit I&#039;d like to live in a city like Reykjavík for a while, and taste its winters, and its cultural activities etc. It can&#039;t be that bad out there in the dark can it? With all the lights in the windows... Cozy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t wait for the solstice. And I&#8217;m only in Spain. I need longer days. Although I must admit I&#8217;d like to live in a city like Reykjavík for a while, and taste its winters, and its cultural activities etc. It can&#8217;t be that bad out there in the dark can it? With all the lights in the windows&#8230; Cozy.</p>
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		<title>By: SimonBrooke</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimonBrooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ idunn: trees grow by photosynthesizing carbon into timber, essentially. The key thing there is photosynthesizing. Trees grow enormously faster in the tropics, slower in the sub-arctic (roughly seven times faster in Ethiopia than in Scotland, to quote figures I&#039;m sure of), because there&#039;s so much less light energy for the trees to use. So you could cover Iceland with trees and it wouldn&#039;t make a big impact - they&#039;d capture carbon, but relatively slowly.

This isn&#039;t a reason for not restoring forest, of course. There are all sorts of good reasons for restoring forest that aren&#039;t to do with global warming. Forests protect hillsides from erosion, slow down winds, buffer water supplies, provide shelter for livestock, provide timber for structural use and for fuel wood... the list goes on and on.

But in Iceland (and elsewhere in the subarctic), not nearly as fast or effectively as it does in warmer parts of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ idunn: trees grow by photosynthesizing carbon into timber, essentially. The key thing there is photosynthesizing. Trees grow enormously faster in the tropics, slower in the sub-arctic (roughly seven times faster in Ethiopia than in Scotland, to quote figures I&#8217;m sure of), because there&#8217;s so much less light energy for the trees to use. So you could cover Iceland with trees and it wouldn&#8217;t make a big impact &#8211; they&#8217;d capture carbon, but relatively slowly.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a reason for not restoring forest, of course. There are all sorts of good reasons for restoring forest that aren&#8217;t to do with global warming. Forests protect hillsides from erosion, slow down winds, buffer water supplies, provide shelter for livestock, provide timber for structural use and for fuel wood&#8230; the list goes on and on.</p>
<p>But in Iceland (and elsewhere in the subarctic), not nearly as fast or effectively as it does in warmer parts of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: alda</title>
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		<dc:creator>alda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 22:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Bradstreet is onto something. We can do the same for the Icelandic government on Icesave.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Bradstreet is onto something. We can do the same for the Icelandic government on Icesave.</p>
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		<title>By: BRADSTREET</title>
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		<dc:creator>BRADSTREET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever noticed that whenever we have these debates about Climate Change, we never agree and never come to any conclusion about what way to go forward? I suggest that we hire ourselves out as a sort of independent Global Warming Think Tank for the United Nations. We can charge several hundred thousand  a year for our services and split the money between us. What do the rest of you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever noticed that whenever we have these debates about Climate Change, we never agree and never come to any conclusion about what way to go forward? I suggest that we hire ourselves out as a sort of independent Global Warming Think Tank for the United Nations. We can charge several hundred thousand  a year for our services and split the money between us. What do the rest of you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Vikingisson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vikingisson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These summits remind me of &quot;Middle East Peace&quot; talks.  Great gig if you can get it, lifetime job with a pension plan.  blah blah blah and the beat goes on.

Climate change or the old term global warming does not, repeat does not imply that it will be warm and you&#039;ll never feel the cold again.  There is no doubt that the climate is changing despite all the exposed shenanigans.   There are opportunists and extremists on all sides but that doesn&#039;t alter what is already happening.

I put it down to a simple fact, pollution is bad and we&#039;re putting more of it into the earth than the earth can clean for us.  And it doesn&#039;t matter if we&#039;re in a climate change scenario naturally or by the hand of man, it ain&#039;t gonna be good.  I&#039;d like my air and water clean no matter what anyone says about the future crisis or non crisis.

High technology or not I think we&#039;re less prepared to deal with this mess than the ancients were when it happened to them.  The people that didn&#039;t starve jumped into the long boats and moved.  

&quot;you&#039;re gonna need a bigger boat&quot;
Jaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These summits remind me of &#8220;Middle East Peace&#8221; talks.  Great gig if you can get it, lifetime job with a pension plan.  blah blah blah and the beat goes on.</p>
<p>Climate change or the old term global warming does not, repeat does not imply that it will be warm and you&#8217;ll never feel the cold again.  There is no doubt that the climate is changing despite all the exposed shenanigans.   There are opportunists and extremists on all sides but that doesn&#8217;t alter what is already happening.</p>
<p>I put it down to a simple fact, pollution is bad and we&#8217;re putting more of it into the earth than the earth can clean for us.  And it doesn&#8217;t matter if we&#8217;re in a climate change scenario naturally or by the hand of man, it ain&#8217;t gonna be good.  I&#8217;d like my air and water clean no matter what anyone says about the future crisis or non crisis.</p>
<p>High technology or not I think we&#8217;re less prepared to deal with this mess than the ancients were when it happened to them.  The people that didn&#8217;t starve jumped into the long boats and moved.  </p>
<p>&#8220;you&#8217;re gonna need a bigger boat&#8221;<br />
Jaws.</p>
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		<title>By: BRADSTREET</title>
		<link>http://icelandweatherreport.com/2009/12/icelands-copenhagen-goals-feasible-or-phoney.html/comment-page-1#comment-11480</link>
		<dc:creator>BRADSTREET</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the problems is that the treatment of global warming in the media is taking a more and more apocalyptic slant. We&#039;ve only got 50 days to save the planet, to quote my beloved prime-minister, and so on. Unfortunately, the current scientific evidence does not really support such an unambiguous reading. We hear a great deal about the Artic melting, but much less about the fact that the Antarctic (which contains 90% of the world ice) has been growing steadily cooler for the past 3o years. People are becoming increasingly sceptical. Whether this is right or wrong is up to you, but they are. When politicians jet all round the world in order to decide whether the rest of us need to pay more to fly, drive and eat, you can understand why people feel the way that they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the problems is that the treatment of global warming in the media is taking a more and more apocalyptic slant. We&#8217;ve only got 50 days to save the planet, to quote my beloved prime-minister, and so on. Unfortunately, the current scientific evidence does not really support such an unambiguous reading. We hear a great deal about the Artic melting, but much less about the fact that the Antarctic (which contains 90% of the world ice) has been growing steadily cooler for the past 3o years. People are becoming increasingly sceptical. Whether this is right or wrong is up to you, but they are. When politicians jet all round the world in order to decide whether the rest of us need to pay more to fly, drive and eat, you can understand why people feel the way that they do.</p>
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		<title>By: Joerg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joerg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;MEANWHILE GLOBAL WARMING IS HERE&quot;

That must be local warming. In Germany it&#039;s freezing cold and the first snow has arrived.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;MEANWHILE GLOBAL WARMING IS HERE&#8221;</p>
<p>That must be local warming. In Germany it&#8217;s freezing cold and the first snow has arrived.</p>
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		<title>By: idunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>idunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Ms Svandís Svavarsdóttir didn&#039;t have time to see you, I have some ideas.

Since most in Iceland probably confine most of their travel near Reykjavík, how about the widespread adoption of electric vehicles? If not an SUV, the new Nissan Leaf, points the direction of what is practically possible, and coming. In lieu of this, or in addition, more use of hybrid vehicles, which even now do come in SUV format.

Then, a favorite of mine, how about returning the forests of yore to Iceland? Green points awarded for carbon sequester, and in having forests again the citizens might even decide they rather love them. A good place to hang Christmas lights as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Ms Svandís Svavarsdóttir didn&#8217;t have time to see you, I have some ideas.</p>
<p>Since most in Iceland probably confine most of their travel near Reykjavík, how about the widespread adoption of electric vehicles? If not an SUV, the new Nissan Leaf, points the direction of what is practically possible, and coming. In lieu of this, or in addition, more use of hybrid vehicles, which even now do come in SUV format.</p>
<p>Then, a favorite of mine, how about returning the forests of yore to Iceland? Green points awarded for carbon sequester, and in having forests again the citizens might even decide they rather love them. A good place to hang Christmas lights as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m I the only one here that thinks this is a solution looking for a problem? Hasn&#039;t the fake science been exposed?
Additionally, I find the whole idea of limiting population growth to be bizarre. I enjoy my life. I imagine billions of others do as well. If you want to limit population growth, start with yourself! That is quick and easy way to alleviate your concerns and do something for the environment. Carbon emissions upset you. Don&#039;t drive, ever. Period.  Also, it&#039;s easy to find a list of petroleum-based products. Don&#039;t use them. Any of them! Ever.
In fact, inhale freely, but don&#039;t exhale. Exhaling is a sin.
Be the change!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m I the only one here that thinks this is a solution looking for a problem? Hasn&#8217;t the fake science been exposed?<br />
Additionally, I find the whole idea of limiting population growth to be bizarre. I enjoy my life. I imagine billions of others do as well. If you want to limit population growth, start with yourself! That is quick and easy way to alleviate your concerns and do something for the environment. Carbon emissions upset you. Don&#8217;t drive, ever. Period.  Also, it&#8217;s easy to find a list of petroleum-based products. Don&#8217;t use them. Any of them! Ever.<br />
In fact, inhale freely, but don&#8217;t exhale. Exhaling is a sin.<br />
Be the change!</p>
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