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Updates: election numbers and more

UPDATE: XO has dropped back down to four seats, at 2.02 am. Boo.

I’m really going to bed now.

UPDATE: XO has earned five seats in parliament at 2 am. wOOt!

I’m going to bed.

First numbers are in and my favoured party, the Civic Movement [XO – don’t you love it!], which was born out of the protests last fall, is galloping out of nowhere to grab around 7-8 percent, which means 4-5 seats in parliament. This is fabulous – not only because I love an underdog [by which I mean they’ve had NO MONEY and have been up against all the big campaign machines and are nonetheless pulling these numbers] but also because they have a very accessible and sensible platform. They’re a group of individuals who are smart and savvy and are clearly doing this from an ideological standpoint: because they want REAL CHANGE.

They seem to be usurping much of the following from the Left-Greens, who are getting substantially lower numbers than predicted. As minipuffin suggested in the comments to the last post, they are likely being punished for their radical anti-EU stance in the last few days. I know it put a lot of people off, including YT; for a while I was seriously considering voting for them, even despite my deep antipathy for one of their candidates. In the end it was the anti-EU stance that put me off.

The Social Democrats, meanwhile, are getting the highest numbers, with currently around 33 percent following, or 22 seats in parliament. I know for a fact that many people who were on the fence voted for them almost exclusively on the basis of their pro-EU agenda. If the end result is as it looks likely to be, it’s a clear message that the Nicelanders want to commence negotiations with the EU.

The IP, on the other hand, are getting their worst result in the history of the Republic. Heh. Hehehheh.

For the first time ever in the history in this country, we’re electing a solid left-wing government. Which marks a total shift in values for this nation. wOOt!

More anon!

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  • Chris April 25, 2009, 11:46 pm

    Congratulations. Can you comment on crossing out names on the ballots?

  • Lissa April 25, 2009, 11:53 pm

    As usual, Al Jazeera English seems to be out in front of the BBC, the NY Times and the other English language media on Iceland. http://english.aljazeera.net//news/europe/2009/04/200942522631653849.html

  • alda April 25, 2009, 11:56 pm

    It seems that a lot of names have been crossed off the ballots, much more than usual. When a name is crossed off (for those who don’t know) it means that, if the ratio is high enough, it means that the individual in question falls down by a seat; a bit higher ratio means down yet another seat, etc.

    There have been so many corruption scandals that have come to light in the past few weeks, particularly recently, and many of those involve individual politicians, which is the likely explanation for those names being crossed off.

  • Blaast April 26, 2009, 12:53 am

    Icelanders want negotiations with the EU? This is contrary to what the folks at Grapevine say: http://grapevine.is/Features/ReadArticle/Liveblogging-The-2009-Elections- . According to that author, two thirds don’t like the idea of joining the EU.

  • 9uy April 26, 2009, 1:35 am

    Fresh start to Iceland, good luck!

  • Andrew April 26, 2009, 2:42 am

    What policies does the CM stand for? Did you read it’s manifesto? In fact, did you read any of the parties’ manifestos?

    Did you have any of the sentiments when you voted yesterday as expressed by some Icelanders in this article?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/iceland/5221188/Iceland-votes-after-the-economic-meltdown.html

    Iceland votes after the economic meltdown
    Icelanders go to the polls after financial meltdown which wrecked “money Viking” dream.
    By Colin Freeman in Reykjavik

  • Jessie April 26, 2009, 3:03 am

    Sounds like good news so far. I guess the IP, like the Republican party in the US, will be sent back to the drawing board for a little introspection. *cough*

    How likely do you think it is that Iceland will join the EU? At first thought, it sounds like a bad idea that would result in Iceland losing its unique identity, though it sounds like Iceland, at the very least, needs a new currency.

  • Ann April 26, 2009, 3:10 am

    Our first trip to Iceland in 2004 (knowing nothing about Iceland really, except it had amazing horses and cool geology), we asked why Iceland had not joined the European Union. The answer we got from one individual, was after centuries of another country telling Iceland what it could and could not do, he felt Iceland wanted to make all its own decisions about itself. I gotta say, I was deeply impressed by that. I have no idea if it was even true, but regardless of how your elections and subsequent decisions go, I hope that independent spirit we saw then endures! P.S. I got my book and I am very much enjoying it. Thanks Alda!

  • Ljósmynd DE April 26, 2009, 6:55 am

    It’s certainly good news for Iceland that the the elections clearly indicate a demand for change. I wonder however, how the two left-wing coalition parties will get along, if they disagree on such a central issue like EU membership. Wouldn’t the Left-Greens loose their face, if they revoked their opposition against Iceland joining the EU? The loophole might be a referendum to let the people decide – which wouldn’t be that bad.

  • Rick April 26, 2009, 7:59 am

    I am really, truly happy for Iceland and I hope the country now has a chance to breathe easier now and look into the future with some optimism.

  • Steve, UK April 26, 2009, 8:10 am

    > According to that author, two thirds don’t like the idea of joining the EU.

    If you remove fish as an issue, then a majority would support joining. So many who at this moment are against joining would be willing to talk, with no strings attached, to see how far the EU will budge on the Common Fisheries Policy.

    AFAIK that article you linked to slightly misrepresents the LG position, as they’ve said that they are willing to start negotiations but only after a national referendum.

    Alda. Very cool that, although you don’t vote for a person, you can say who you you really *don’t* want to get a seat. Presumably you can only do that with the party who you cast your vote for?

  • alda April 26, 2009, 11:04 am

    Andrew – I did not read every manifesto (although I did read some), but in the days preceding the elections there were lengthy broadcasts every night where the leaders of the parties in each constituency outlined their policies and answered questions from the public. I watched almost all of those and I think most of us who did got a very good idea of what was on offer.

    Jessie – I can’t say how likely I think it is until we have all the information. I think it is very likely that talks will be entered into, after which we’ll have a clear idea of what the positions are.

    Ann – yes, there is great fear of losing our independence, which is probably why Iceland has not joined the EU before now.

    LDE – it is precisely that loophole that I think will allow them to reach an agreement.

    Steve – yes, that’s right. If you strike out a name from a list that you’re not voting for it invalidates your ballot.

  • Chris April 26, 2009, 11:08 am

    @Alda: Thanks for the explanation. Interesting feature for elections, I have never heard of it.

  • Mondrian April 26, 2009, 11:12 am

    wOOt! And yay! And booyah! And great news all around. Was really pleased to read the results this morning. Next question: EU membership: what is to be done? I agree that a referendum might be the best way of addressing this, politically and socially.

  • Andrew April 26, 2009, 1:49 pm

    Looking at the results, it seems that if the Left-Greens are too awkward with the SD, the SD have the possible option of a coalition with the PP and CM. Do you think that is a back-up position?

  • Alexander E. April 26, 2009, 6:25 pm

    Weird…
    My comments was here yesterday right after #5 from 9uy. But it’s gone today.. 🙁

    Any idea?

  • alda April 26, 2009, 6:34 pm

    Mondrian – thanks!

    Andrew – yes, I think that’s a possibility, although I think they’ll try every possibility to reach an agreement with the LGs.

    Alexander – I’m puzzled. I don’t remember your comment being there. Would you like to re-submit?

  • Alexander E. April 27, 2009, 12:49 am

    Alexander – I’m puzzled. I don’t remember your comment being there. Would you like to re-submit?

    I would but I’m warning you won’t like it 😉

    For the first time ever in the history in this country, we’re electing a solid left-wing government. Which marks a total shift in values for this nation.

    Can’t agree with your opinion about solid and total shifts.
    It’s not solid cause the only reason for these two parties to stay together is the simple fact – they can’t stand alone. Like two disabled they have to support each other. Of fell.
    It’s not solid cause they have very different agenda. This wouldn’t be such a problem in other situations – politicians used to form “coalitions” of very strange nature – but this time they differ about key issue – EU. I’m saying “key issue” because it was main “carrot” for SD to get that number of votes. Without that magic word – EU – what else could they offer (remember – they’ve been in the team that brought Iceland to this shit).
    Even you confirmed that 😉

    for a while I was seriously considering voting for them, even despite my deep antipathy for one of their candidates. In the end it was the anti-EU stance that put me off.

    Shift? From my point of it was just anger and frustration of people that drove them to vote for anyone but xD (aka Independence Party). And even with all that anger xD got the second place!

    So from my point of you – the current election is a disaster. It just shows how people of Iceland are divided. But even this is not the biggest problem. The biggest and worst one is that behind all this “revolution” and “democrazy” noise YOUR real wills and wishes were stolen from you.

    Tell me – do you agree 100% with any party or at least with any of the politicians? Do you believe they will represent YOUR point of view same way as you see it?
    Well you can tell me that this is part of democratic and political system and bla-bla-bla….

    But before you answer – would you please read what was published at borgarfundur.is site (and written by me).
    http://alexander.blog.is/blog/alexander/entry/811514/ (this is a link to the text as at borgarfundur.is there is no way to provide direct link to the article – only to Hugmyndabanki section as a whole).

    PS. So far I couldn’t find answers to two simple question btw.
    1. What will EU membership bring to Iceland and what problems will be solved (and by whom)?

    2. What “victory” everyone is talking about? At least from military point a victory means when you defeat an enemy but not when you appoint a new Team in Command 🙂