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Young Icelanders challenge government on climate change

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As I alluded to in a previous post, climate change feels like a non-issue in Iceland at the moment. So much time and space is given over to the effects of our recent economic implosion and the myriad difficulties resulting from it, that climate change on a broader scale gets hardly any press. Besides, Icelanders, on the whole, are remarkably ignorant when it comes to environmental matters – in everything from limiting car exhaust [hey, how about turning off your engine when you’re sitting idle in your car!] to recycling [tip: newspapers, old electrical devices and shoes do NOT belong in the household trash] to use of styrofoam [dear Mr. Hothouse Farmer: bell peppers taste just as good when not packaged on a styrofoam tray. Honest].

In light of this, it was particularly heartening to read that the United Nations Association of Iceland, made up of people 25 years old and younger, this week submitted a formal challenge to the Icelandic government concerning climate change. It was in the form of a list that they would like the Icelandic delegation to bring to the table at the Copenhagen summit next month. I think it’s an excellent summary, and very encouraging to see young people in this country formulating a clear vision on climate change issues and – not least – taking the initiative to do something about it.

Read the rest of it here.

WE HAZ SNOW!
Yes, it started snowing this morning [as you can see on Alexander’s photo in the forums – make sure you check out his visual weather reports] and now the ground is sprinkled with white. It was also pretty darn cold, sub-zero temps for most of the day [although only about -1°C, which I’m sure many of you consider positively balmy compared to where you live] and with the ubiquitous wind, which boosted the chill factor substantially. Still! We had snow! The first snow of the season [for me anyway – apparently there was snow while I was sweltering over in Italy in October] is always such a delight. And this weekend is the first weekend in the Advent, which makes the white stuff particularly fitting. Right now we have +1°C which translates to 34F, and sunrise this morning was at 10.32, sunset at 3.56 [yikes!].

[PS – I know I’m a bit late on this, but Happy Thanksgiving to all my American readers!]

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  • James November 28, 2009, 1:50 am

    I have always been very sceptical of the global warming theory and extremely sceptical of the man-made global warming theory. I have no political agenda, but a few years of post-doc science research as background (before turning to banking…). My concerns were about scientific method: selection of data sets, deleting/losing original data, statistical manipulation of data, unfounded inferences, etc. Those concerns now also include scientific fraud, bullying, censorship, etc; eg http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/copenhagen-climate-change-confe/6672875/Whos-to-blame-for-Climategate.html

  • James November 28, 2009, 1:56 am
  • cactus zonie November 28, 2009, 2:06 am

    Invest wisely .

    Remember the Krona around 1981 , Icelanders made a joke about OLD Krona and NEW Krona. A few zeros chopped off , no problem.

    Get ready for “old” Dollar and DEAD DOLLAR !

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZA0qNsf4m0&feature=player_embedded&ref=patrick.net

  • Kris November 28, 2009, 5:48 am

    It looks like the scientific evidence has been doctored to show a warming trend that does not exists. At least that is what the hacked emails show, and pretty obviously too. They also show a systematic corruption of scientific journals and the peer review process.
    This ‘climate change’ propaganda is even insidious. For scientist around the world it is a disaster. Who can trust anything now?
    What is the world health organization up to these days?
    Kris

  • BRADSTREET November 28, 2009, 4:04 pm

    The fact is that there are scientists on both sides of the Global Warming lobby who strongly believe what they are saying. Some believe that we are causing climate change by our use of fossil fuels, others think that any warming is a purely natural phenomenon. The danger comes when pressure groups, politicians, or even scientists, attempt to stifle debate. A calm, informed and adult exchange of ideas and theories is vital. Whether climate change is our fault or not, it it is happening then money and resources must be used to offset any potentially dangerous consequences to our society.

  • Gwrhyr November 28, 2009, 5:12 pm

    As far as climate change, the debate about whether or not it is caused by us or nature is irrelevant. Whatever causes it, it’s ruining our Swedish winters… what used to be clear skies and dry, snowy fields now resemble rainy Dutch mud. All the bickering about who caused it and what we should do about it doesn’t bring the weather back. And the bickering also doesn’t help us prepare for the challenges the changes are bringing to our economies and daily realities.
    Thanks for the nod to Thanksgiving, Alda. I had an American-Swedish Thanksgiving dinner and it was quite delicious… we even had Swedish-grandmother-made black and red currant sauce to replace cranberry sauce. It was really fun, but my Swedish father-in-law grumbled about how we shouldn’t be celebrating Thanksgiving in Sweden, but that just added to his charm since he’s a grumbly old man in general… and what are the holidays without grumbly old people?

  • Alexander E. November 28, 2009, 7:40 pm

    So much time and space is given over to the effects of our recent economic implosion and the myriad difficulties resulting from it, that climate change on a broader scale gets hardly any press.

    First of all, economic issues are more important to people. When you have bread and butter and sit in a warm house – you can talk about anything including climate. But for majority of people on this planet just simple bread and simple roof still something they can talk about only.
    So it’s good for Al Gore goofing around and getting Nobel prize. But ask people on the street – and few wouldn’t give damn about “climate change”.
    So I think this is absolutely normal.
    At least I know – when heating was turned off in the middle of the winter (due to the lack of finance) people really didn’t care whether it was environ-mentally friendly or sustainable to burn coal or whatever (and it was -30 C outside)…

    Secondly, I think “climate change” is a ridiculous label itself. Climate is changing all the time. Maybe for politicians and young people under 25 it isn’t – cause former don’t care and latter don’t know/remember. But climate is not a constant thing.
    In the place I was born (and lived most my life) last palm trees died a hundred years ago. In the forest one can see south types trees (few that adjusted to cold) usually found 2,000 – 3,000 kilometers down south. Traces of people living there are dated as far as 10,000 back in time…but it was empty land at least for the last 1,000 years. And all because of cold. I mentioned winter (and the lowest temperature around -40 was recorded recently). But permanent frost is just a hundred kilometers up north now. Is it climate change? Hell it is. But it’s not warming for sure (and starting the car in the morning at -30 C is real ‘fun” ).

    PS. thanks for pointing to my little weather work (the only purpose of it – to let you concentrate on writing blog posts) 😉

  • sylvia hikins November 29, 2009, 12:55 am

    Ask the people of Bangladesh what they think.
    sylvia from viking wirral (which will be under water when the Greenland Icecap melts.)

  • Kris November 29, 2009, 1:13 am

    Climate change used to be known as ‘global warming’ but they had to re-brand it because nature was not conforming to the agenda.
    I think the real agenda in the upcoming meeting in Copenhagen is to impose the first ever global tax and to create a new parlour game for the casinos: cap and trade!
    Check out some of the university commentary. Climatology is a house on fire.

  • idunn December 1, 2009, 12:24 am

    I’m heartened when youth take an interest in their environment. More than a few I know of a certain age have even told me that even if they chose to believe in mankind induced climate change that, being older, it won’t affect them anyway, so why bother? The answer should be self-evident, but anyway . . .

    Chances are our changing global climate will even improve Iceland’s weather in some respects. One of the more serious problems I see likely in consequence is melting of glaciers, with less available water. Overall precipitation may or not increase/decline. Actually, that most strongly felt may come from without. While those of Iceland may be more or less okay in this regard, many others around this planet anything but. The list is long and varied, including such problems as low-lying South Pacific island nations disappearing, increased famine, severely less water in some regions, and resultant financial insecurity in many sectors. To the extent Iceland trades with or depends on the outside world, it will be affected, in some ways perhaps profoundly.

  • James December 1, 2009, 10:42 am

    idunn – The problem of melting glaciers isn’t merely less available water: the glacial rivers will eventually stop flowing and so many of the hydroelectric power stations will stop generating. But the real problem is that, assuming climate change is not man-made, there’s little can be done to prevent it.

  • Kris December 2, 2009, 4:06 pm

    The climate always changes and people and other creatures adapt and change with it. Take a break from the UN Fraudsters and read the works of some real scientist like Charles Darwin.